No sound from Tidal (Windows)

Installation help
1

Hi everyone,
I'm particularly interested in making music with Tidal, so I have installed everything following the steps from the userbase.
I have installed Atom as text editor.
I boot SuperCollider typing SuperDirt.start and I see this message:

*** Welcome to SuperCollider 3.11.2. *** For help press Ctrl-D.
SCDoc: Indexing help-files...
SCDoc: Indexed 1922 documents in 1.15 seconds
-> SuperDirt
Booting server 'localhost' on address 127.0.0.1:57110.

Device options:

  • MME : Microsoft Sound Mapper - Input (device #0 with 2 ins 0 outs)
  • MME : Microfono (Scarlett 2i2 USB) (device #1 with 2 ins 0 outs)
  • MME : Gruppo microfoni (Tecnologia In (device #2 with 4 ins 0 outs)
  • MME : Microsoft Sound Mapper - Output (device #3 with 0 ins 2 outs)
  • MME : Altoparlanti (Scarlett 2i2 USB) (device #4 with 0 ins 2 outs)
  • MME : Speaker (Realtek(R) Audio) (device #5 with 0 ins 8 outs)
  • Windows DirectSound : Driver primario di acquisizione suoni (device #6 with 2 ins 0 outs)
  • Windows DirectSound : Microfono (Scarlett 2i2 USB) (device #7 with 2 ins 0 outs)
  • Windows DirectSound : Gruppo microfoni (Tecnologia Intel® Smart Sound) (device #8 with 4 ins 0 outs)
  • Windows DirectSound : Driver audio principale (device #9 with 0 ins 2 outs)
  • Windows DirectSound : Altoparlanti (Scarlett 2i2 USB) (device #10 with 0 ins 2 outs)
  • Windows DirectSound : Speaker (Realtek(R) Audio) (device #11 with 0 ins 8 outs)
  • Windows WASAPI : Altoparlanti (Scarlett 2i2 USB) (device #12 with 0 ins 2 outs)
  • Windows WASAPI : Speaker (Realtek(R) Audio) (device #13 with 0 ins 2 outs)
  • Windows WASAPI : Microfono (Scarlett 2i2 USB) (device #14 with 2 ins 0 outs)
  • Windows WASAPI : Gruppo microfoni (Tecnologia Intel® Smart Sound) (device #15 with 2 ins 0 outs)
  • Windows WDM-KS : Microfono (Realtek HD Audio Mic input) (device #16 with 2 ins 0 outs)
  • Windows WDM-KS : Speakers 1 (Realtek HD Audio output with SST) (device #17 with 0 ins 2 outs)
  • Windows WDM-KS : Speakers 2 (Realtek HD Audio output with SST) (device #18 with 0 ins 8 outs)
  • Windows WDM-KS : Altoparlante PC (Realtek HD Audio output with SST) (device #19 with 2 ins 0 outs)
  • Windows WDM-KS : Headphones 1 (Realtek HD Audio 2nd output with SST) (device #20 with 0 ins 2 outs)
  • Windows WDM-KS : Headphones 2 (Realtek HD Audio 2nd output with SST) (device #21 with 0 ins 8 outs)
  • Windows WDM-KS : Altoparlante PC (Realtek HD Audio 2nd output with SST) (device #22 with 2 ins 0 outs)
  • Windows WDM-KS : Gruppo microfoni 1 (Microfono della tecnologia Intel® Smart Sound) (device #23 with 2 ins 0 outs)
  • Windows WDM-KS : Gruppo microfoni 2 (Microfono della tecnologia Intel® Smart Sound) (device #24 with 4 ins 0 outs)
  • Windows WDM-KS : Gruppo microfoni 3 (Microfono della tecnologia Intel® Smart Sound) (device #25 with 4 ins 0 outs)
  • Windows WDM-KS : Speakers (Scarlett 2i2 USB) (device #26 with 0 ins 2 outs)
  • Windows WDM-KS : Microfono (Scarlett 2i2 USB) (device #27 with 2 ins 0 outs)

Requested devices:
In (matching device NOT found):

  • (null)
    Out (matching device NOT found):
  • (null)

Selecting default system input/output devices

Booting with:
In: MME : Microfono (Scarlett 2i2 USB)
Out: MME : Altoparlanti (Scarlett 2i2 USB)
Sample rate: 44100.000
Latency (in/out): 0.013 / 0.091 sec
SC_AudioDriver: sample rate = 44100.000000, driver's block size = 64
SuperCollider 3 server ready.
Requested notification messages from server 'localhost'
localhost: server process's maxLogins (1) matches with my options.
localhost: keeping clientID (0) as confirmed by server process.
Shared memory server interface initialized
loading synthdefs in C:\Users\Lorenzo\AppData\Local\SuperCollider\downloaded-quarks\SuperDirt\classes..\synths\core-modules.scd
---- core synth defs loaded ----
loading synthdefs in C:\Users\Lorenzo\AppData\Local\SuperCollider\downloaded-quarks\SuperDirt\classes..\synths\core-synths-global.scd
loading synthdefs in C:\Users\Lorenzo\AppData\Local\SuperCollider\downloaded-quarks\SuperDirt\classes..\synths\core-synths.scd
loading synthdefs in C:\Users\Lorenzo\AppData\Local\SuperCollider\downloaded-quarks\SuperDirt\classes..\synths\default-synths.scd
exception in GraphDef_Recv: exceeded number of interconnect buffers.
loading synthdefs in C:\Users\Lorenzo\AppData\Local\SuperCollider\downloaded-quarks\SuperDirt\classes..\synths\try-load-extra-synths.scd
loading synthdefs in C:\Users\Lorenzo\AppData\Local\SuperCollider\downloaded-quarks\SuperDirt\classes..\synths\tutorial-synths.scd

loading 300 sample banks:
.git (0) 00portone (9) 01kpitch (23) 02knoise (9) 03frigo (20) 05frullatore (3) 06hainbach (48) 07glitch (10) 08noise (7) 09pentole (22) 10forno (6) 11tapirulan (7) 12bici (27) 2 (1) 808 (6) 808bd (25) 808cy (25) 808hc (5) 808ht (5) 808lc (5) 808lt (5) 808mc (5) 808mt (5) 808oh (5) 808sd (25) 909 (1) ab (12) ade (10) ades2 (9) ades3 (7) ades4 (6) alex (2) alphabet (26) amencutup (32) armora (7) arp (2) arpy (11) auto (11) baa (7) baa2 (7) bass (4) bass0 (3) bass1 (30) bass2 (5) bass3 (11) bassdm (24) bassfoo (3) basso (3) battles (2) bd (24) bend (4) bev (2) bin (2) birds (10) birds3 (19) bleep (13) blip (2) blue (2) bottle (13) box (9) breaks120 (10) breaks125 (2) breaks152 (1) breaks157 (1) breaks165 (1) breath (1) brush (12) brush2 (5) bubble (8) can (14) canzonelss (8) canzonelss2 (2) casio (3) cb (1) cc (6) chin (4) chitarra (5) chitarra01 (8) circus (3) clak (2) click (4) clubkick (5) co (4) coins (1) concreta (2) control (2) cosmicg (15) cp (2) cr (6) crow (4) d (4) daughter (8) david (2) db (13) dedo (5) diphone (38) diphone2 (12) dist (16) donne (8) dork2 (4) dorkbot (2) dr (42) dr2 (6) dr55 (4) drum (6) drumtraks (13) dr_few (8) dubpad (3) e (8) east (9) electro1 (13) em2 (6) erk (1) essenziale (6) Ex (4) f (1) feel (7) feelfx (8) fest (1) fieldrec (2) fire (1) flick (17) fm (17) foo (27) future (17) gab (10) gabba (4) gabbaloud (4) gabbalouder (4) glasstap (3) glitch (8) glitch2 (8) gretsch (24) gtr (3) h (7) hand (17) hardcore (12) hardkick (6) haw (6) hc (6) hh (13) hh27 (13) hihat (6) hit (6) hmm (1) ho (6) hoover (6) house (8) ht (16) if (5) ifdrums (3) ilprimosuono (1) immmprobatt (10) immmprourla (4) immpro (20) immproarp (4) immproarp2 (4) incoming (8) industrial (32) insect (3) invaders (18) jazz (8) jungbass (20) jungle (13) juno (12) jvbass (13) kicklinn (1) koy (2) kurt (7) lasciaaccordi (5) lasciaaccordibassi (7) lasciahh (4) lasciaquesto (24) lasciaquestoludo (8) latibro (8) lb (32) led (1) less (4) lighter (33) linnhats (6) loopdistrutto (8) lt (16) ludi (6) ludiChitarrona (1) made (7) made2 (1) mash (2) mash2 (4) metal (10) miniyeah (4) moan (1) monsterb (6) moog (7) mouth (15) mp3 (4) msg (9) mt (16) mute (28) newnotes (15) noise (1) noise2 (8) notes (15) numbers (9) oc (4) odx (15) off (1) outdoor (6) pad (3) padlong (1) pebbles (1) perc (6) peri (15) pianotapemi (12) pise1 (32) pise2 (32) pise3 (2) pluck (17) popkick (10) porte (4) portecassa (5) portehh (5) portepercussioni (7) porterullo (8) porterumori (1) portesynth (2) print (11) proc (2) procshort (8) psr (30) puntina (2) rave (8) rave2 (4) ravemono (2) realclaps (4) reverbkick (1) rm (2) rs (1) sax (22) sd (2) seawolf (3) sequential (8) sf (18) sheffield (1) short (5) sid (12) sine (6) sitar (8) sn (52) space (18) speakspell (12) speech (7) speechless (10) speedupdown (9) spliceamon (8) spliceblipcassa (2) spliceblipmedio (7) splicebliprullo (2) splicedrum (8) spliceglitch (14) splicehh (4) splicehhblip (3) spliceidm (3) splicesoul (1) splicetape (0) splicetapetidal (11) splicetechno (7) splicetrip (18) stab (23) stomp (10) subroc3d (11) sugar (2) sundance (6) tabla (26) tabla2 (46) tablex (3) tacscan (22) tape (6) tapepiano (8) tct (3) tech (13) techno (7) tigre (4) tink (5) tok (4) torri (3) toys (13) trump (11) ul (10) ulgab (5) uxay (3) v (6) videoludo (3) voci (2) voodoo (5) vuotobatt (3) wind (10) wobble (1) world (3) xmas (1) yeah (31)
... file reading complete. Required 2238 MB of memory.

SuperDirt: listening to Tidal on port 57120

Then, I boot TidalCycles and i see this message:

Using default GHC system path definition
Ghci command: ghci
Ghc-pkg command: ghc-pkg
Load BootTidal.hs from C:\Users\Lorenzo.atom\packages\tidalcycles\lib\BootTidal.hs
t>
Loaded package environment from C:\Users\Lorenzo\AppData\Roaming\ghc\x86_64-mingw32-8.10.5\environments\default
t>
t> [TidalCycles version 1.7.7]
Installed in C:\cabal\store\ghc-8.10.5\tidal-1.7.7-c8126bb03f346620335ab4da8773cd9d7b245d25\share
Listening for external controls on 127.0.0.1:6010
t> [TidalCycles v1.7.7]

t>

Then, I write a simple code, d1 $ n "0" # s "toys", but when I press ctrl + enter there is no sound.
I tried to go trough the troubleShooting steps but nothing seems to work.
I have no message of error neither from TidalCycles, nor from SuperDirt.

I use a Scarlett 2i2 USB as external soundcard.

What should I do?

Thanks for your help.

2

Does Supercollider work? try to execute this in the scide:

(
s.waitForBoot {
	{ SinOsc.ar(440!2)}.play
}
)

do you hear anything?

3

Yes, I execute the code and I can hear a sine wave now, but still nothing from Tidal

4

I see it, this log line:

C:\Users\Lorenzo.atom\packages\tidalcycles\lib\BootTidal.hs

Told us that the plugin is trying to load the boottidal from a path that I think it doesn't exist (it miss a backslash between your name and .atom.
Maybe it's a plugin bug.
Try to copy that path, add the missing backslash and add it to the plugin configuration (there's an entry regarding boottidal file path). Restart atom and try to evaluate some tidal code

5

Sorry, I was away from home. Ok, I tried to check the path, and now seems to be right. When I boot Tidal I have this message now:

Using default GHC system path definition
Ghci command: ghci
Ghc-pkg command: ghc-pkg
Load BootTidal.hs from C:\Users\Lorenzo.atom\packages\tidalcycles\lib\BootTidal.hs
t>
Loaded package environment from C:\Users\Lorenzo\AppData\Roaming\ghc\x86_64-mingw32-8.10.5\environments\default
t>
t> [TidalCycles version 1.7.7]
Installed in C:\cabal\store\ghc-8.10.5\tidal-1.7.7-c8126bb03f346620335ab4da8773cd9d7b245d25\share
Listening for external controls on 127.0.0.1:6010
t>
t> [TidalCycles v1.7.7]

t>

I tried to evaluate a code, but still no sound coming out :slightly_frowning_face:

6

The path is still wrong..
Try to put the boottidal in another path like c: and try to configure that path in configuration

8

This is weird, because when I copy the code I can see the backlash, but when I paste it here... it seems to disappear.
Where can I find the plugin configuration? In Atom, in the setting part, I see a config folder, do I have to click there?

9

It could be a problem with the \. in windows, try to put two backslash before the dot.

The plugin configuration is reachable from the plugin page in atom, search "tidalcycles" then click on settings

10

Ok, so if I have understood correctly I have to change the path from the tidal's settings on Atom, am I right? Like this?

tidal
tidal1036Ă—464 14 KB

11

Yes, this could be a trial. The other cone could be to copy that file into another directory (like C:) and then configure its path there

12

Okay, I copied the boottidal.hs file in the directory C:, now when I boot tidal I get this error message:

Loaded package environment from C:\Users\Lorenzo\AppData\Roaming\ghc\x86_64-mingw32-8.10.5\environments\default
t>
t> IO error: "C:" permission denied

13

I think that's a windows issue... try to put it into your user folder and change the configuration accordingly

14

I tried to put it in different folders (C:\Users, C:\Users\Lorenzo...), but every time the permission is denied. Should I try to uninstall atom and re-install it?

15

We are at the point where windows is taking over... don't know how to help, maybe someone here knows something.

16

just wanted to bring this thread to the top. just upgraded tidal from 1.6.1 to 1.7.8 on windows 10 and am having the same issue. the path that points to the boottidal.hs file is throwing an error in atom and when i go into the tidal package settings to configure a new default boot path (using both methods of \ and \\) i am denied permissions

UPDATE: after (unsuccessfully) attempting to set a new boot tidal path in atom's package settings for tidal, the "default" setting now correctly identifies the location of my boottidal.hs file

[TidalCycles version 1.7.8]
Installed in C:\Users\kit_mauldin\AppData\Roaming\cabal\x86_64-windows-ghc-8.6.5\tidal-1.7.8
Listening for external controls on 127.0.0.1:6010

so that's cool. but now the issue appears to be that my default ghci path is not correctly set.

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so i put a dummy path into the settings, rebooted tidal, and then removed the dummy path to see if i could force atom to find the "correct" location like it did with my boottidal file. it did not.

however, i did also notice that the syntax highlighting is a bit off what it should be. if i remember correctly, d1 should be highlighted blue, not purple.

image

my tidal package is up to date. is this a haskell package thing? there doesn't appear to be any windows support for uninstalling/cleaning up ghc in the docs

https://tidalcycles.org/docs/getting-started/uninstalling

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